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Confusedpatriot

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I'm catching up and listening to EPISODE 1781

I've just heard Steve Bannon twice, in the last five minutes, telling people that "we should not demonize illegal aliens because they're doing the rational thing."


Wrong. Totally, absolutely, dead wrong. Bannon should be ashamed of himself.

Every single illegal alien who crosses our border is committing a crime. They know it and don't care.

Sure . . . we can blame Biden . . . . Democrats . . . Catholic Charities . . . George Soros . . . globalists . . . . cartels . . . and a lot of you dummies will blame the "NWO" . . .

. . . but the ultimate guilt rests with illegal aliens. The rest of them are only enablers and/or co-conspirators.

We need to treat illegal aliens like the enemy. They are an invading army. They're here to take everything you have and destroy your children's future.

We need to generate some good-old-fashioned American anger towards these people AND DRIVE THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Then we deal with their enablers.

Always, always, always remember that from the perspective of your future grand-children, today's illegal, aliens are no different than this.

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ZenRoman

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Can only speak from my experience.
Who would do all the semi-skilled and un-skilled labor?

They do all lawn care, snow removal, construction, roofing, painting, auto collision, car wash, laundry, work in restaurants .
Can't itemize the total list.
They work hard and cheaper not cheap.
Illegals do the work we will not do.
American Anger?
Americans are lazy.
Taken everything? they undoubtedly will eventually change the American landscape forever.
Look at the upside it will give bannonfan something to continuously complain about.
America will transition from being White Protestant to Brown Catholic.
 

Gzong

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I disagree,

Most people mow their own laws, mend their own houses, take care of their own gardens, they are the majority.
Today foreign labor isn’t as cheep as it once was in fact if you bid out say a painting job on your home you might find their labor costs to be about the same as anyone.

I’ve built houses and worked for contractors 30 years ago contractors started using foreign labor because they could undercut the existing labor market that gave them an advantage in bidding for contracts. Today those cheep foreign laborers are now the contractors and most of the old contractors are gone.

So when a new wave of foreign laborers come into the market their competing with foreign contractors who have an allegiance, it’s their jobs that are on the line but the price of labor will continue to rise the market is just changing who’s running the show.

We all need to work to support our family’s things get a bit testy when your priced out of the market. There’s a difference between being priced out and not wanting to work.
Sound’s like those coming illegally across our borders aren’t looking for work but want our hand outs.
Most Americans of all races aren’t lazy they work hard, so I’m disagreeing with your assessment of the American worker.


 

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I disagree,

Most people mow their own laws, mend their own houses, take care of their own gardens, they are the majority.
Today foreign labor isn’t as cheep as it once was in fact if you bid out say a painting job on your home you might find their labor costs to be about the same as anyone.

I’ve built houses and worked for contractors 30 years ago contractors started using foreign labor because they could undercut the existing labor market that gave them an advantage in bidding for contracts. Today those cheep foreign laborers are now the contractors and most of the old contractors are gone.

So when a new wave of foreign laborers come into the market their competing with foreign contractors who have an allegiance, it’s their jobs that are on the line but the price of labor will continue to rise the market is just changing who’s running the show.

We all need to work to support our family’s things get a bit testy when your priced out of the market. There’s a difference between being priced out and not wanting to work.
Sound’s like those coming illegally across our borders aren’t looking for work but want our hand outs.
Most Americans of all races aren’t lazy they work hard, so I’m disagreeing with your assessment of the American worker.
the thread was started by a PIT, what did you expect?

ps, new workers, illegals, VERY entitled...they want 20-25 an hour cash around here. No english, pay no taxes types.
we know, we can't get help for less. and I WON"T pay it.
 
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Confusedpatriot

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Can only speak from my experience.
Who would do all the semi-skilled and un-skilled labor?

Huh???? Who did it before they showed up? Walmart stores (cheap overseas labor) wiped out a big part of the lower-middle Middle Class by destroying Mom & Pop businesses. Illegal aliens are attacking the lower Middle Class and the Lower Class. This is a war on American Labor. Where I live, for example, we have several white roofing companies and several white lawn services. Now they're forced to compete with mexicans . . . . many of whom don't have papers. That's not right.

American Anger?
Americans are lazy.

Americans are brainwashed. There's a difference. You can see right here on this forum how many of these Progressive idiots lose it when I say things like "America was built by whites" or "America is a white nation." White Americans have been taught to hate themselves. They're paralyzed by fear and guilt over their own supposed "racism." Wake up White America the way Peal Harbor did and these illegal aliens will get exactly what the Japs got.

America will transition from being White Protestant to Brown Catholic.

Very doubtful simply because as the "transition" begins, America will split into various nations or regions. The White European is the greatest builder in history. No other race or ethnicity comes close. The "brown catholics" are on far opposite end of that scale. There's no way WASPs will ever be ruled by non-whites . . . . unless . . . . the current socialist system continues.
 
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ZenRoman

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I disagree,

Most people mow their own laws, mend their own houses, take care of their own gardens, they are the majority.
Today foreign labor isn’t as cheep as it once was in fact if you bid out say a painting job on your home you might find their labor costs to be about the same as anyone.

I’ve built houses and worked for contractors 30 years ago contractors started using foreign labor because they could undercut the existing labor market that gave them an advantage in bidding for contracts. Today those cheep foreign laborers are now the contractors and most of the old contractors are gone.

So when a new wave of foreign laborers come into the market their competing with foreign contractors who have an allegiance, it’s their jobs that are on the line but the price of labor will continue to rise the market is just changing who’s running the show.

We all need to work to support our family’s things get a bit testy when your priced out of the market. There’s a difference between being priced out and not wanting to work.
Sound’s like those coming illegally across our borders aren’t looking for work but want our hand outs.
Most Americans of all races aren’t lazy they work hard, so I’m disagreeing with your assessment of the American worker.
I disagree,

Most people mow their own laws, mend their own houses, take care of their own gardens, they are the majority.
Today foreign labor isn’t as cheep as it once was in fact if you bid out say a painting job on your home you might find their labor costs to be about the same as anyone.

I’ve built houses and worked for contractors 30 years ago contractors started using foreign labor because they could undercut the existing labor market that gave them an advantage in bidding for contracts. Today those cheep foreign laborers are now the contractors and most of the old contractors are gone.

So when a new wave of foreign laborers come into the market their competing with foreign contractors who have an allegiance, it’s their jobs that are on the line but the price of labor will continue to rise the market is just changing who’s running the show.

We all need to work to support our family’s things get a bit testy when your priced out of the market. There’s a difference between being priced out and not wanting to work.
Sound’s like those coming illegally across our borders aren’t looking for work but want our hand outs.
Most Americans of all races aren’t lazy they work hard, so I’m disagreeing with your assessment of the American worker.
@worked for contractors 30 years ago--

I quoted current and my experience
Where I am they do
ALL THE WORK
 
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ZenRoman

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the thread was started by a PIT, what did you expect?

ps, new workers, illegals, VERY entitled...they want 20-25 an hour cash around here. No english, pay no taxes types.
we know, we can't get help for less. and I WON"T pay it.

Depending on work

$200-$300 a day

There is always someone who speaks English

They line up at the local Home Depot or Lowe's.
 

Confusedpatriot

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It doesn't matter if we demonize them or not if we have a wall and a real border. Problem solved.
No it's not my friend. That's only part of the problem . . . . the easy part.

The problem was never "open borders." That's just the tactic. Hell, we have an open border with Canada that's no problem Lots of open borders all over the world.

The problem is that out nation is filling up with people who are not like us and therefore, will change our culture. This is why the Cultural Marxists are flooding America with as many illegals as they can before we shut it all down.

You don't cure cancer by preventing future cancer. You cure it by cutting out and disposing of the cells that already there.

That's the fight.
 
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Confusedpatriot

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@worked for contractors 30 years ago--

I quoted current and my experience
Where I am they do
ALL THE WORK
I get it . . . . but it doesn't have to be like that. And in fact, I would recommend that you move somewhere where it isn't like that.

I was thinking last night about some research I read a long time ago. It discussed how poor Southern whites who enlisted in the Confederate Army felt about slavery.

Generally, they hated it. Why?

1) Slave labor made it almost impossible for white labor to find work. For example when they built the railroads in the South, almost no whites were hired because they railroads either bought or leased blacks. Near a plantation, white labor always had to compete with slaves the plantation owner could hire out very cheaply.

2) Slave labor made it impossible for small white farmers to compete. In the Midwest, for example, a white man could buy 40-50 acres and raise enough food to feed his family and sell product for cash. But in the South, plantations flooded the market with cheap agricultural product so the Southern farmer could never sell what he grew. He could feed his family but he couldn't buy them shoes.

3) Slave labor made it impossible for skilled white labor to compete. So, for example, the plantations would train a slave to be a blacksmith, or carpenter, or shoe maker. They would take care of the needs of the plantation but then they would also service the local community. The slave carpenter would keep some of the payment and the master would get the rest. Once again, a white Southern carpenter could not compete.

So we have to understand illegal migration from the perspective of today's white labor, black labor and even young people

Illegal migration makes our people much poorer which increases, health problems, crime, drug abuse, etc. Like chattel slavery, it is a curse on our land.
 

ZenRoman

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I get it . . . . but it doesn't have to be like that. And in fact, I would recommend that you move somewhere where it isn't like that.

I was thinking last night about some research I read a long time ago. It discussed how poor Southern whites who enlisted in the Confederate Army felt about slavery.

Generally, they hated it. Why?

1) Slave labor made it almost impossible for white labor to find work. For example when they built the railroads in the South, almost no whites were hired because they railroads either bought or leased blacks. Near a plantation, white labor always had to compete with slaves the plantation owner could hire out very cheaply.

2) Slave labor made it impossible for small white farmers to compete. In the Midwest, for example, a white man could buy 40-50 acres and raise enough food to feed his family and sell product for cash. But in the South, plantations flooded the market with cheap agricultural product so the Southern farmer could never sell what he grew. He could feed his family but he couldn't buy them shoes.

3) Slave labor made it impossible for skilled white labor to compete. So, for example, the plantations would train a slave to be a blacksmith, or carpenter, or shoe maker. They would take care of the needs of the plantation but then they would also service the local community. The slave carpenter would keep some of the payment and the master would get the rest. Once again, a white Southern carpenter could not compete.

So we have to understand illegal migration from the perspective of today's white labor, black labor and even young people

Illegal migration makes our people much poorer which increases, health problems, crime, drug abuse, etc. Like chattel slavery, it is a curse on our land.
@ I would recommend that you move somewhere where it isn't like that.

Any suggestions?
 

Confusedpatriot

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I disagree,

Most Americans of all races aren’t lazy they work hard, so I’m disagreeing with your assessment of the American worker.

I absolutely agree with you and disagree that American labor is "lazy."

There has, however, been a war on American labor (especially white labor) and the socialists are winning.

Early communists like Antonio Gramsci couldn't understand why European and American workers of the 1920s didn't accept communism. They quickly realized that in Europe and America, labor had it pretty good. For example, a man could leave school as a teenager, go to work for Henry Ford building cars and earn enough money to support his family. After WW 2 he could earn enough to even buy a small house.

So, to bring communism to America, labor's ability to live a good life had to be destroyed. This was accomplished through

1) cultural changes (for example, when's the last time you heard someone talk about the Protestant Work Ethic)

2) flooding the US market with cheap labor

3) while at the same time making it easy for companies to move overseas and use cheaper foreign labor.


Making America look like this was not an "accident" . . . . it was the result of a one hundred year communist effort to destroy America.

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I don't think anyone knows what the true psychological impact of this war has been on white and black American labor. There comes a point where people are so beaten down that they stop fighting. I'm afraid that this may be what's happening in the US.

So, no, our people are not lazy . . . but they have been given a big ass-whipping.

Tghis is exactly what happened to German labor during the Weimar Republic

the-decline-of-the-weimar-republic-and-the-rise-of-the-nazi-party-1929-1933.jpg


Those out-of-work German workers soon found a new career

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ZenRoman

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I absolutely agree with you and disagree that American labor is "lazy."

There has, however, been a war on American labor (especially white labor) and the socialists are winning.

Early communists like Antonio Gramsci couldn't understand why European and American workers of the 1920s didn't accept communism. They quickly realized that in Europe and America, labor had it pretty good. For example, a man could leave school as a teenager, go to work for Henry Ford building cars and earn enough money to support his family. After WW 2 he could earn enough to even buy a small house.

So, to bring communism to America, labor's ability to live a good life had to be destroyed. This was accomplished through

1) cultural changes (for example, when's the last time you heard someone talk about the Protestant Work Ethic)

2) flooding the US market with cheap labor

3) while at the same time making it easy for companies to move overseas and use cheaper foreign labor.


Making America look like this was not an "accident" . . . . it was the result of a one hundred year communist effort to destroy America.

515708d1392488497-americas-rust-belt-20abandoned-20factory-20in-20detroit-2c-20mich..jpg


I don't think anyone knows what the true psychological impact of this war has been on white and black American labor. There comes a point where people are so beaten down that they stop fighting. I'm afraid that this may be what's happening in the US.

So, no, our people are not lazy . . . but they have been given a big ass-whipping.

Tghis is exactly what happened to German labor during the Weimar Republic

the-decline-of-the-weimar-republic-and-the-rise-of-the-nazi-party-1929-1933.jpg


Those out-of-work German workers soon found a new career

nazi-sa-brownshirts-march-through-the-brandenburg-gate-in-berlin-picture-id184253417
@I absolutely agree with you and disagree that American labor is "lazy."

Never said American Labor is lazy

Americans are lazy---

They will not do the work illegals do--

I see them at the Car Wash--

in below Zero degree Weather
 

Confusedpatriot

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the thread was started by a PIT, what did you expect?

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You're absolutely right. I am angry Pit and I'm ready to take the leg off any liberal, socialist, progressive idiot who wants to destroy my country . . . . especially any who hide out on a MAGA forum pretending to be one of us when they're not..

By the way, Exhaust Fan . . . . do you notice how I answer comments and questions fully? You notice how I don't run away from a challenge? You notice how others disagree with me and each other and stand their ground? Notice how we all agree to disagree.

That's what FREE MEN do. That's what FREE SPEECH is all about. That's how we built this nation.

It's a shame that you and your silly Komrades have forgotten the lesson.
 

Gzong

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@worked for contractors 30 years ago--

I quoted current and my experience
Where I am they do
ALL THE WORK
Then I would say you are the lazy one and not in the majority of hard working Americans.
I now understand, a golden spoon better explains your posts.
 
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Americans are lazy---

They will not do the work illegals do--

I see them at the Car Wash--

in below Zero degree Weather

Honestly . . . . . I don't disagree with you.

Now, to clarify terms, when i say "America" I mean white-Americans . . . . people whose ancestors built this nation.

Yes, i agree that White Americans have changed and are no longer who they were. David Crocket was born 30 miles from where I live. If he and his family were to return today, they would not recognize what America has become.

Americans are not inherently a lazy people. But today, we are a WOUNDED people.
 
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Gzong

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Honestly . . . . . I don't disagree with you.

Now, to clarify terms, when i say "America" I mean white-Americans . . . . people whose ancestors built this nation.

Yes, i agree that White Americans have changed and are no longer who they were. David Crocket was born 30 miles from where I live. If he and his family were to return today, they would not recognize what America has become.

Americans are not inherently a lazy people. But today, we are a WOUNDED people.
 

Gzong

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Again, I just have to disagree real Americans aren’t wounded they’re doing what they need to do for their family's some drive buses, some landscape, some work at car washes, or restaurants, some collect garbage, some own business, teach, preach, become firemen or police, bankers, builders and truckers, they’re all of different races, it’s called America.

Car washing can be something to Americans notice all races shapes and sizes.

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/car-wash-hires-35-autistic-employees/
 

Confusedpatriot

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Again, I just have to disagree real Americans aren’t wounded they’re doing what they need to do for their family's some drive buses, some landscape, some work at car washes, or restaurants, some collect garbage, some own business, teach, preach, become firemen or police, bankers, builders and truckers, they’re all of different races, it’s called America.

Car washing can be something to Americans notice all races shapes and sizes.

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/car-wash-hires-35-autistic-employees/

True . . . . but the number who have stopped looking for work is high. The number content to sit on their ass and just take gubmint money is high. The number who screw around, drop out of high school or get a record is high.

One big sign of the malaise of our labor force is the difficulty the military has in recruiting good people.

So, I disagree with your disagreement. :)

The Bad Guys have changed our culture for the worst and we're seeing the effects on our labor force. HOWEVER . . . . I do agree that this isn't universal. Lots of American dads and moms and lots of single adults are out there working their butts off.

They deserve better leadership.
 
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