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The great Apostle Paul specifies in 1 Thes 4:13-18 that believers will be “caught up” to meet Jesus in the air.
Even at that time people misunderstood that hence in his second letter to the Thessalonians he clears it up in Chapter 2. 1“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” Father has only sentenced one son to death, Satan. As for 'caught up' in the air, air is spirit, simply put all change to their spiritual bodies, flesh age ends. Paul uses the word 'cloud' in Hebrews 12.1. A cloud of witnesses. Simply means there will be so many that it will be like a cloud of birds in the sky ... a figure of speech. No one is flying up into the clouds. Believe what you will but when your rapture jesus comes and you don't fly away .... wake up. p.s. God hates those that teach souls to fly away.
 

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Even at that time people misunderstood that hence in his second letter to the Thessalonians he clears it up in Chapter 2. 1“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” Father has only sentenced one son to death, Satan. As for 'caught up' in the air, air is spirit, simply put all change to their spiritual bodies, flesh age ends. Paul uses the word 'cloud' in Hebrews 12.1. A cloud of witnesses. Simply means there will be so many that it will be like a cloud of birds in the sky ... a figure of speech. No one is flying up into the clouds. Believe what you will but when your rapture jesus comes and you don't fly away .... wake up. p.s. God hates those that teach souls to fly away.
Please do tell ME...The meaning of "Bride Christ" in all your Biblical Knowledge and Splendor?'
 
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Isaiah 5:14​


11Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, untill wine inflame them! 12And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their sacrifices: but they regard not the work of the LORD, nor consider the work of His hands or His words.
13Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
14Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth at it, shall descend into it. (hell)
15And the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty man shall be humbled, and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled: 16But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness. 17Then shall the tender lambs feed after their own manner, and the of the waste places of the fat ones, shall strangers eat.
 

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And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist.... —1 John:4:3

what follows is not my work, but I do agree with it. (bannonfan)


It is often taught that Antichrist is not a man but a spirit. Though the above verse refers to the "spirit of antichrist," John earlier makes it clear that Antichrist is a person: "...as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists..." (1 Jn:2:18
). Many antichrists were already present, operating in the "spirit of antichrist." None of them, however, was the Antichrist who, John assures us, will eventually come.


Paul refers to Antichrist as "that man of sin...the son of perdition...that Wicked [one]...whom the Lord...shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders..." (2 Thes:2:3-10
). If this is not the Antichrist, who would this supremely evil man be, who will sit "in the temple of God [to be rebuilt in Jerusalem in these last days], shewing himself that he is God" (v 4)? Who else but Antichrist, Satan's world ruler, would have such authority? "And all that dwell upon earth shall worship him..." (Rev:13:3-4
,8).


Paul declares, "And now ye know what withholdeth [prevents] that he might be revealed in his time" (2 Thes:2:6
). Yet many try to identify Antichrist before his time. This evil man, who is almost certainly alive right now, may not even know the eventual role for which Satan has been grooming him. Nor can Satan put him into power until God prepares the way.


Two events must precede Antichrist's revelation to the world. First must come the great apostasy, already underway in Paul's day and reaching its climax in ours:


...for that day [of Christ, or the Lord, see v 2] shall not come, except there come a falling away [apostasy] first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition....(2 Thes:2:3
)

This verse does not teach that Antichrist must appear before the day of the Lord and thus before the Rapture, which we believe initiates that day. Paul only states that the apostasy must come first. As for Antichrist, "that day shall not come, except...that man of sin be revealed...." Clearly the Antichrist will be revealed in "that day" and not before.


Paul reminds the Thessalonian believers of what must occur in order for Antichrist to be revealed: the removal of the One who prevents this revelation. At the time Paul wrote this epistle a Person was preventing Antichrist from being revealed; and Paul explains that this same Person will continue to do so until He is taken out of the way: "For...he who now letteth [prevents/hinders] will let [prevent], until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed..." (2 Thes:2:7-8
).


That God himself is the One preventing Antichrist from being revealed is clear for two reasons: 1) This One has prevented Satan's takeover for more than 1,900 years; 2) Only God is more powerful than Satan. That God, therefore, who is omnipresent, will be "taken out of the way" is the key.


There is only one possible interpretation: that the Holy Spirit indwelling the believers is the One preventing Antichrist from being revealed. In the Old Testament the Holy Spirit came upon men, but did not indwell them, and could leave them. Thus David prayed, "...take not thy holy spirit from me" (Ps:51:11
). We offer no such prayer today, for we are "sealed with that holy Spirit of promise" (Eph:1:13
) whom Jesus declared would "abide with you for ever" (Jn:14:16
). Christ told His disciples, "...he [the Holy Spirit] dwelleth with you; and shall be in you" (Jn:14:17
). This special presence of God, unknown on earth until the day of Pentecost, can be "taken out of the way"—but only at the Rapture.


Christ assures us, "He that believeth on me,...out of his belly [innermost being] shall flow rivers of living water." John explains, "[T]his spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given [to indwell permanently]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified" (Jn:7:38-39
). It is from heaven when He was glorified to the Father's right hand that Jesus, on the day of Pentecost, sent the Holy Spirit to indwell the believers permanently, exactly as He promised ("the Comforter...whom I will send unto you from the Father..."- Jn:15:26
), and the church was born. Thus Peter at Pentecost declared, "Therefore, being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he [Christ] hath shed forth this..." (Acts:2:33
).


It is only this special indwelling presence of God, which began at Pentecost, that can be taken away—and only through the Rapture removing Christians from earth. If Antichrist appears before the Rapture, then believers would logically look for him first; yet we are told to look for Christ (Lk 12:35-40; Philippians:3:20
; 1 Thes:1:10
; Titus:2:13
; Heb:9:28
, etc.). Nor could any other event except the Rapture unite the world under Antichrist.


Some suggest that the chaos caused by computer failures on January 1, 2000, will be the catalyst to usher in Antichrist's world government. In our opinion, the Y2K warnings of disaster border on extremism and alarmism, which we will attempt to deal with in a future issue. God has something far more electrifying and unifying in mind: the Rapture. In our opinion, nothing else could unite Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, atheists, communists, capitalists and everyone else—except the unspeakable terror caused by the sudden mass disappearance of millions of believers all over the world.


"Where did they go? Who took them? Will I be next?" That hysterical cry will be on everyone's lips—from cowering individuals to the bewildered United Nations meeting in emergency session. Most terrifying of all will be the question, "How can I escape when whoever took them comes back for more?" Almost no one will believe the biblical Rapture has occurred, because of a "strong delusion" from God (2 Thes:2:10-12
).


The pretrib Rapture, uniting the world in a common terror and grief, will offer the perfect opportunity for Satan to put his man into power. With God's restraint lifted, all of Satan's power will be unleashed through Antichrist "in signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness" (vv 9-10). Antichrist may claim to be negotiating with an intergalactic council for the return of the missing. Should he promise that those who take his mark in hand or forehead would not be snatched from earth, multitudes would welcome that guarantee.


We believe that the Rapture (not the appearance of Antichrist and tribulation necessitating survivalist tactics) is the next event on the prophetic calendar, and that it must occur very soon. In the meantime, the "spirit of antichrist" is preparing the world and a false church for his appearing. Consider carefully what John has to say: "...try [test] the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world"(1 Jn:4:1
). Many spirits are involved in a common anti-Christ agenda, speaking through many false prophets.


John alerts us to a foundational truth which Satan undermines in any way he can: "that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh" (1 Jn:4:2
). The denial of this truth characterizes what John calls "the spirit of antichrist."


Tragically, this antichrist spirit pollutes the teaching of many seemingly Christian churches and leaders. Remember, the Greek prefix anti not only means "in opposition to" but also "in the place of." The antichrist spirit opposes Christ under the pretense of representing Him and leading His church.


To warn of a denial "that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh" seems, at first, unnecessary. Very few people deny that Jesus Christ really lived. The date on coins and documents around the world attests to that historic fact. John, therefore, must have meant much more than that, as careful thought reveals.


Clearly, the phrase "is come in the flesh" indicates that Jesus Christ existed prior to His incarnation as a babe in Bethlehem. He is God the Son, one of three Persons of the Godhead (Col:2:9
), "the Almighty...the Alpha and Omega" (Rev:1:8
,11); the Creator of all (Jn:1:3
); the eternal Word "made flesh" (Jn:1:14
). "For unto us a child is born" refers to the baby Jesus. The very next phrase, "unto us a son is given" (Isa:9:6
), refers to the Father giving His eternal Son into the world: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son..." (Jn:3:16
); "the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me" (Isa:48:16
, etc).


This given Son is called "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" (Isa:9:6
). To deny that God has come in flesh expresses the very spirit of antichrist. That spirit is manifested in the Jehovah's Witnesses' denial that Jesus is God. Islam and its Koran, though honoring Jesus as a great prophet, also deny His deity. So do a substantial percentage of those who call themselves born-again Christians. These people are lost, no matter how lustily they sing, "O how I love Jesus," and how faithfully they attend church; for Jesus himself said, "Before Abraham was, I AM" [this is God's name, Jahweh/Jehovah, from Ex 3:14] (Jn:8:58
).


The Mormon's denial is more devious: At the time Jesus came into the world He was a spirit being, half-brother of Lucifer and of all of us in a pre-earth state. Our "Father in heaven" was once a sinful man on another planet and was redeemed by that world's Jesus. The heart of Mormon doctrine is "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become." The Mormon's God is an exalted man with numerous wives through whom he has millions of spirit children who must come to earth in order to become gods, as Jesus did. The body Jesus took in order to achieve godhood was produced when "Father God" came to earth and had intercourse with Mary. Behind such teaching, writes John, is "the spirit of antichrist."
 
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The Roman Catholic claim that Mary is "the Mother of God" and the "spouse of the Holy Spirit" offers an even more subtle anti-Christ twist. In fact, Mary is not the mother of Jesus as God, the Eternal Son of God given by the Father to be the Savior of the world. She is the mother of Jesus as man, the mother of the body the Father prepared for His Son in her womb: "Wherefore when he [Christ] cometh into the world, he saith...a body hast thou prepared me" (Heb:10:5
). Nor is she "the spouse of the Holy Spirit." The creation by the Holy Spirit in Mary's womb of the body which Jesus took when He became man had nothing to do with a relationship to her that could in any way imply that the Holy Spirit was Mary's spouse.


The Mary of Catholicism and Orthodoxy, inspired by the spirit of antichrist, has been elevated above Jesus, who is almost always pictured as a babe in her arms or a child at her side. Far more prayers are said to this false Mary than to Jesus and the Father combined. Many prayers ask her for the salvation which Christ, who is the Savior, promises all who believe in Him.


Reincarnation as taught by Hinduism (or New Age) is another denial that "Jesus Christ is come in the flesh." It requires that He come repeatedly in other bodies in successive lives. At His incarnation, Christ took up permanent residence in human flesh; the same body that was laid in the grave was raised from the dead, never to die again, leaving the grave empty. In that resurrected, glorified body, Christ now lives at the Father's right hand. Yet as surely as that fact is denied by the teaching of reincarnation, so surely is it also denied by Roman Catholicism's dogma that Christ comes in the flesh over and over to die continually on its altars as a wafer turned into His literal physical body.


Such teaching comes through the spirit of antichrist. The sacrifice of the Mass denies the clear teaching of the Bible: "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many...we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once...after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever...there is no more offering for sin" (Heb:9:25-10
:18). Defying such Scriptures, Catholicism declares, "Hence the Mass ...[is] a sacrifice in which the sacrifice of the cross is perpetuated...in the sacrifice of the Mass our Lord is immolated...the eucharistic sacrifice is the source and the summit of...the Christian life....In the sacrifice of the Mass in fact, Christ offers himself for the salvation of the entire world" (Vatican II, Eucharisticum Mysterium, 3.,18.).


Through this false teaching, the spirit of antichrist has Catholics literally worshiping the wafer as God ("all the faithful ought to show to this most holy sacrament the worship which is due to the true God"- Ibid., 3.f.). They think that salvation comes gradually by repeatedly ingesting Christ's physical body and blood—this wafer.


The errors of both reincarnation and the Sacrifice of the Eucharist are refuted by Scripture. "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" (Heb:9:27
) refutes reincarnation. "Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many...there is no more offering for sin" (Heb:9:28
; 10:18) refutes the alleged sacrifice of the Mass..


Christ's entrance into flesh to become a man took place only once—and is permanent in that same body. He was not "raised" a spirit being as His disciples imagined: "Handle me, and see;" Jesus told them, "for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have" (Lk 24:39). One must believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ in order to be saved: "That if thou shalt ...believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved" (Rom:10:9
); "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel...By which also ye are saved,...how that Christ died for our sins...was buried, and...rose again the third day" (1 Cor:15:1-4
). No other gospel will save the soul. Let us proclaim it without compromise and thus counter the lies perpetuated by the spirit of antichrist.
 

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Please do tell ME...The meaning of "Bride Christ" in all your Biblical Knowledge and Splendor?'
At least a sense of humor. I'm guessing your sincerely in the matter is in question, think? Anyway, certainly Bride 'OF' Christ is at least referenced a lot, could it have been a typo?😲
All out of my skill set otherwise though!👍
 
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to answer the rapture question, I think folks misinterpret what the bible says.
first that word is not in scripture, the word harpazio is, and it means to be snatched away.
Now some will say, everyone is raptured when they die and not before. true everyone leaves their body, but not all go to be with God, according to scripture, some go with God, some do not.
some would not even want to go be with God. He is Holy, they will not belong there.

However, Jesus did say to "Look up, when you see all these things happening, for your redemption draws near"
"every eye shall see Him" "the angels shall gather them up, two shall be in the field, one shall be taken and one shall be left, and many many more references to the end of the age, and to the restrainer (Holy Spirit) who indwells the saints alive now, and whose faith filled prayers are restraining satanic host NOW...when they and He are taken up off the earth, this is when ALL HELL will really break loose.
st. paul said this was the "blessed hope" he said to "pray you be worthy" he said to make ready for the day"
Jesus said to have oil in your lamps and be ready for the bridegroom comes at midnight....Paul again said, "then we who are alive and remain shall meet the Lord in the air"
all these passages and many more point to a similar experience at the end of days for surviving believers to that which enoch and ezekial both had...both of whom were "taken" by God....taken alive. the coming LIE will include the governments saying believers died, were arrested and put in camps, or taken by aliens. not sure which lie they will use, but none will be true, unless you consider our Lord an alien. now, while i agree that the rapture shouldn't be what we focus on, we should be about our fathers business, meaning helping one another, it would require one to cut passages out of every book of the new testament and many in the old as well.
its comical really, that anyone who does believe in God, and by default is acknowledging that He created EVERYTHING that exists, to then assume He could not take His own dear children anytime He wanted to. After all....have you LOOKED at the size of the universe?

so why are some so sure there is no rapture? Look at their other doctrines, most of which are also the opposite of what scripture teaches, and you will have your answer.
 

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so why are some so sure there is no rapture? Look at their other doctrines, most of which are also the opposite of what scripture teaches, and you will have your answer.
1 Kings 19:18 / Romans 11:4 7,000 won't bow to Satan, the rest will do so. I fully support your right to be among the latter.
 

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1 Kings 19:18 / Romans 11:4 7,000 won't bow to Satan, the rest will do so. I fully support your right to be among the latter.
that is not a future prophecy, that was fulfilled in elijah lifetime, but I support your right to listen to false theologians.

when you bow to the spirit of BAAL or Molock, who sacrifice children etc, you bow to satan. when you kiss kiss ring with your mouth, (the part of that scripture you left out) you bow.

I would much prefer death to kissing your papists ring, the cult of pedophilia needs to be exposed, May the Lord God expose them all, for whtat they really are. AMen.
and that goes for any other church or group that does the same, or winks at it, and retires their perverts to "club med/sandals style resorts......... when they should go to prison.
 

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that is not a future prophecy, that was fulfilled in elijah lifetime, but I support your right to listen to false theologians.
Who do you listen to? Rev Jesse?
 

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Even at that time people misunderstood that hence in his second letter to the Thessalonians he clears it up in Chapter 2. 1“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” Father has only sentenced one son to death, Satan. As for 'caught up' in the air, air is spirit, simply put all change to their spiritual bodies, flesh age ends. Paul uses the word 'cloud' in Hebrews 12.1. A cloud of witnesses. Simply means there will be so many that it will be like a cloud of birds in the sky ... a figure of speech. No one is flying up into the clouds. Believe what you will but when your rapture jesus comes and you don't fly away .... wake up. p.s. God hates those that teach souls to fly away.
I believe it is easy to confuse Scripture based on different interpretations, translations from original Greek/Hebrew language. So I tend to offer grace to those whom may be struggling on Scriptural truth or accuracy. For I myself, have had plenty of confusion in deciphering what the Word of Yehovah actually means when I read it.

John 4:24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and Truth."

I do not think air is spirit, as you have written above. We might not be able to see air except in wind movement or pollution. But that does not ring true that air is equal to the Creator God, whom is Spirit and must be worshipped in spirit and truth.

It is also my understanding that Paul wrote his second letter to Thessalonians because they believed the Rapture had already taken place and they missed out. Apparently disinformation was just as prevalent then, as they had received some sort of letter forged by Paul. Paul is saying it was not from him.

From the Complete Jewish Bible:

2 Thessalonians 2::1-4 "But in connection with the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah and our gathering together to meet him, we ask you, brothers, not to be easily shaken in your thinking or anxious because of a spirit or a spoken message or a letter supposedly from us claiming that the Day of the Lord has already come. Don't let anyone deceive you in anyway. For the Day will not come until after the Apostasy has come and the man who separates himself from Torah, has been revealed, the one destined for doom. He will oppose himself to everything that people call a god or make an object of worship; he will put himself above them all, so that he will sit in the Temple of God and proclaim that he himself is God."

This verse has led me to believe that the Rapture about which I previously understood, as in pre Trib Rapture, indeed may not actually occur pre-trib (still ascertaining that) I am seeking all truth from Yehovah, so I might have to adjust my pre-trib Rapture position, to align with this verse.

However, in this translation from the Jewish Bible; it is clear that "the man who separates himself form Torah" is simply that, a man. The Torah is the five books of the OT, whereby Yehovah made His covenant with his people of Israel. But I think you already know that from previous posts.

Then also in 2 Thessalonians 1:6 "For it is justice for God to pay back trouble to those who are troubling you, and to give rest along with us to you who are being troubled, when the Lord Yeshua is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in a fiery flame. The he will punish those who don't know God, that is those who don't listen to the Good News of our Lord Yeshua and obey it."

I keep wondering why you would not use capitalized "Jesus" when you refer to "rapture jesus". Twice, Paul identifies Yeshua as "our Lord Yeshua the Messiah" and refers to the "Good News of our Lord Yeshua". Do you agree that Yeshua is the son of Yehovah and it is through His sacrifice on the Cross which leads to salvation? The power of Yeshua's blood is what terrifies demons. My question to you KWayne, is do you believe that Yeshua is the son of Yehovah or not?
 
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1 Kings 19:18 / Romans 11:4 7,000 won't bow to Satan, the rest will do so. I fully support your right to be among the latter.
You know, I think if you read the full context of both of those verses you quoted, you would realize that Elijah was afraid for his life. Back up and read the first verse in context of the whole chapter of 1 Kings 19:18, which I will not write out.
And then read how Paul was referencing Elijah's experience.

But even a little bit in 1 Kings 19:14 -18: "He answered, 'I have been very zealous for ADONAI the God of armies because the people of Isra'el have abandoned your covenant, broken down your alters, and killed your prophets with the sword. Now, I'm the only one left, and they're after me to kill me, too.' ADONAI said to him, "Go back by way of the Dammesek Desert. When you get there, anoint Haza'el to be king over Aram. Also anoint Yehu the son of Nimshi to be king over Isra'el, and anoint Elisha the son of Shafat of Avel-M'cholah to be prophet after you. Yehu will kill whoever escapes the sword of Haza'el, and Elisha will kill whoever escapes the sword of Yehu. Still, I will spare seven thousand in Isra'el, every knee that hasn't bent down before Ba'al and every mouth that has not kissed him.'"

LWayne, my experience with you on these types of posts, is that you attack someone if they correct you. One of the first times I asked you for a Scripture reference, your response was "Not buying. Jude 9."

When I looked up that passage, it had to do with Archangel Michael arguing with the Adversary over Moshe's (Moses) body. Michael then told satan, "May ADONAI rebuke you."

I confronted you for "rebuking me" because I asked you simply to provide a Scripture reference for your claims. And I also wrote that the Spiritual Power by the blood of Jesus Christ covering ME was way stronger than the power you were using to rebuke me.

On another occasion, I asked you for a Scripture reference. That time, you ignored/avoided me. I could care less about that. But I do care about the Word of Yehovah and testing every spirit to discern truth. Now, here you are judging Bannonfan's comments by stating you support his "right" to bow down to satan. Bannonfan does not need me to come to his rescue and I am not doing that. Nor does Prayer is Power or AngellicAngela.

What I am doing is calling out the PATTERNS I read from you on these threads using Scriptures and your interpretations, for which do not seem to match up when one uses Scripture to compare with Scripture . I am questioning your hostility toward me and your flippant attitude to dismiss others.. That is neither helpful nor an act of Christian love to reach those whom you believe may be in error. It seems to me that you are angry if anyone questions your usage of Scripture or your interpretation of Scripture. What would that suggest?
 
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And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist.... —1 John:4:3

what follows is not my work, but I do agree with it. (bannonfan)


It is often taught that Antichrist is not a man but a spirit. Though the above verse refers to the "spirit of antichrist," John earlier makes it clear that Antichrist is a person: "...as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists..." (1 Jn:2:18
). Many antichrists were already present, operating in the "spirit of antichrist." None of them, however, was the Antichrist who, John assures us, will eventually come.


Paul refers to Antichrist as "that man of sin...the son of perdition...that Wicked [one]...whom the Lord...shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders..." (2 Thes:2:3-10
). If this is not the Antichrist, who would this supremely evil man be, who will sit "in the temple of God [to be rebuilt in Jerusalem in these last days], shewing himself that he is God" (v 4)? Who else but Antichrist, Satan's world ruler, would have such authority? "And all that dwell upon earth shall worship him..." (Rev:13:3-4
,8).


Paul declares, "And now ye know what withholdeth [prevents] that he might be revealed in his time" (2 Thes:2:6
). Yet many try to identify Antichrist before his time. This evil man, who is almost certainly alive right now, may not even know the eventual role for which Satan has been grooming him. Nor can Satan put him into power until God prepares the way.


Two events must precede Antichrist's revelation to the world. First must come the great apostasy, already underway in Paul's day and reaching its climax in ours:




This verse does not teach that Antichrist must appear before the day of the Lord and thus before the Rapture, which we believe initiates that day. Paul only states that the apostasy must come first. As for Antichrist, "that day shall not come, except...that man of sin be revealed...." Clearly the Antichrist will be revealed in "that day" and not before.


Paul reminds the Thessalonian believers of what must occur in order for Antichrist to be revealed: the removal of the One who prevents this revelation. At the time Paul wrote this epistle a Person was preventing Antichrist from being revealed; and Paul explains that this same Person will continue to do so until He is taken out of the way: "For...he who now letteth [prevents/hinders] will let [prevent], until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed..." (2 Thes:2:7-8
).


That God himself is the One preventing Antichrist from being revealed is clear for two reasons: 1) This One has prevented Satan's takeover for more than 1,900 years; 2) Only God is more powerful than Satan. That God, therefore, who is omnipresent, will be "taken out of the way" is the key.


There is only one possible interpretation: that the Holy Spirit indwelling the believers is the One preventing Antichrist from being revealed. In the Old Testament the Holy Spirit came upon men, but did not indwell them, and could leave them. Thus David prayed, "...take not thy holy spirit from me" (Ps:51:11
). We offer no such prayer today, for we are "sealed with that holy Spirit of promise" (Eph:1:13
) whom Jesus declared would "abide with you for ever" (Jn:14:16
). Christ told His disciples, "...he [the Holy Spirit] dwelleth with you; and shall be in you" (Jn:14:17
). This special presence of God, unknown on earth until the day of Pentecost, can be "taken out of the way"—but only at the Rapture.


Christ assures us, "He that believeth on me,...out of his belly [innermost being] shall flow rivers of living water." John explains, "[T]his spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given [to indwell permanently]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified" (Jn:7:38-39
). It is from heaven when He was glorified to the Father's right hand that Jesus, on the day of Pentecost, sent the Holy Spirit to indwell the believers permanently, exactly as He promised ("the Comforter...whom I will send unto you from the Father..."- Jn:15:26
), and the church was born. Thus Peter at Pentecost declared, "Therefore, being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he [Christ] hath shed forth this..." (Acts:2:33
).


It is only this special indwelling presence of God, which began at Pentecost, that can be taken away—and only through the Rapture removing Christians from earth. If Antichrist appears before the Rapture, then believers would logically look for him first; yet we are told to look for Christ (Lk 12:35-40; Philippians:3:20
; 1 Thes:1:10
; Titus:2:13
; Heb:9:28
, etc.). Nor could any other event except the Rapture unite the world under Antichrist.


Some suggest that the chaos caused by computer failures on January 1, 2000, will be the catalyst to usher in Antichrist's world government. In our opinion, the Y2K warnings of disaster border on extremism and alarmism, which we will attempt to deal with in a future issue. God has something far more electrifying and unifying in mind: the Rapture. In our opinion, nothing else could unite Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, atheists, communists, capitalists and everyone else—except the unspeakable terror caused by the sudden mass disappearance of millions of believers all over the world.


"Where did they go? Who took them? Will I be next?" That hysterical cry will be on everyone's lips—from cowering individuals to the bewildered United Nations meeting in emergency session. Most terrifying of all will be the question, "How can I escape when whoever took them comes back for more?" Almost no one will believe the biblical Rapture has occurred, because of a "strong delusion" from God (2 Thes:2:10-12
).


The pretrib Rapture, uniting the world in a common terror and grief, will offer the perfect opportunity for Satan to put his man into power. With God's restraint lifted, all of Satan's power will be unleashed through Antichrist "in signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness" (vv 9-10). Antichrist may claim to be negotiating with an intergalactic council for the return of the missing. Should he promise that those who take his mark in hand or forehead would not be snatched from earth, multitudes would welcome that guarantee.


We believe that the Rapture (not the appearance of Antichrist and tribulation necessitating survivalist tactics) is the next event on the prophetic calendar, and that it must occur very soon. In the meantime, the "spirit of antichrist" is preparing the world and a false church for his appearing. Consider carefully what John has to say: "...try [test] the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world"(1 Jn:4:1
). Many spirits are involved in a common anti-Christ agenda, speaking through many false prophets.


John alerts us to a foundational truth which Satan undermines in any way he can: "that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh" (1 Jn:4:2
). The denial of this truth characterizes what John calls "the spirit of antichrist."


Tragically, this antichrist spirit pollutes the teaching of many seemingly Christian churches and leaders. Remember, the Greek prefix anti not only means "in opposition to" but also "in the place of." The antichrist spirit opposes Christ under the pretense of representing Him and leading His church.


To warn of a denial "that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh" seems, at first, unnecessary. Very few people deny that Jesus Christ really lived. The date on coins and documents around the world attests to that historic fact. John, therefore, must have meant much more than that, as careful thought reveals.


Clearly, the phrase "is come in the flesh" indicates that Jesus Christ existed prior to His incarnation as a babe in Bethlehem. He is God the Son, one of three Persons of the Godhead (Col:2:9
), "the Almighty...the Alpha and Omega" (Rev:1:8
,11); the Creator of all (Jn:1:3
); the eternal Word "made flesh" (Jn:1:14
). "For unto us a child is born" refers to the baby Jesus. The very next phrase, "unto us a son is given" (Isa:9:6
), refers to the Father giving His eternal Son into the world: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son..." (Jn:3:16
); "the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me" (Isa:48:16
, etc).


This given Son is called "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" (Isa:9:6
). To deny that God has come in flesh expresses the very spirit of antichrist. That spirit is manifested in the Jehovah's Witnesses' denial that Jesus is God. Islam and its Koran, though honoring Jesus as a great prophet, also deny His deity. So do a substantial percentage of those who call themselves born-again Christians. These people are lost, no matter how lustily they sing, "O how I love Jesus," and how faithfully they attend church; for Jesus himself said, "Before Abraham was, I AM" [this is God's name, Jahweh/Jehovah, from Ex 3:14] (Jn:8:58
).


The Mormon's denial is more devious: At the time Jesus came into the world He was a spirit being, half-brother of Lucifer and of all of us in a pre-earth state. Our "Father in heaven" was once a sinful man on another planet and was redeemed by that world's Jesus. The heart of Mormon doctrine is "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become." The Mormon's God is an exalted man with numerous wives through whom he has millions of spirit children who must come to earth in order to become gods, as Jesus did. The body Jesus took in order to achieve godhood was produced when "Father God" came to earth and had intercourse with Mary. Behind such teaching, writes John, is "the spirit of antichrist."
This is great! Reading it helped me a lot! I truly appreciate the writing here.

I have been confused about when the rapture will happen, whether it be pre or mid tribulation. I have mostly been told it is pre-tribulation, but was not thoroughly convinced because of how I was understanding Matthew 24.

Now this writing's explanation makes more sense to me. This really helps clear the confusion up for me. Pre-tribulation rapture is the truth and I understand this better now.

Grateful, thank you!
 

bannonfan

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many believe SCout,
but its in a different Christ, and they are under wolves dressed in sheeps clothing, teaching them hate.
. Ones who sees people, not sin as the problem.
the reason to hate half truths, is because they support half lies at the self same time.

anyone who hates his brother is a liar and the Truth is not in him.
how can you say you love God, whom you have not seen when you hate your brother whom you can see.
all, have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. all.....meaning all.

therefore we hate sin and deception because they pull people from truth into falsity and hatreds of others,
we hate sin, because it draws folks into confusion and depravity and robs them of the gift of clear thinking and honest living. How can one do to another what God said leads to destruction?
If one leads another into destruction, for their own pleasure, into captivity, bacause they are a captive, do they not both go down into destruction? How could anyone say they love another...and make them more fit for hell??

by this you will know them, that they love one another. God love people, but God hates lies and liars. Its ok to hate what He hates, just as long as we are able to distinguish. (by their fruits....)

if a man or woman would be unhappy to find folks of different colors, ethnicities, or denominations in heaven, then he does not know or serve God, nor will he be happy in heaven, because all peoples will be there!!
If a man thinks I must accept his perversions to be loving, I would ask him, how affirming what I know will destroy your soul would be an act of love.

. Only when our hearts break, and we try to snatch them from the lies, are we reflecting the Lord. Yet, leaving them in deception is also wrong, as Christ said we would have their blood on our hands if we did not warn them.

all the hatred in this country now, is what the apostate churches have done to bring one group against the other.
and the atheists, whether Darwinian communist or new age, all love to pit one group against another.
One cult even teaches that the blacks will become white if they obey God. (mormon) How insulting.

by this you shall know them...that they love one another......or not. Whites need to repent of racism as do some blacks. Replacement theology is a lie. We are folded into Israel through faith, we do not replace them.
Jews needs to forgive the lies, and consider Messiah on the merits of 700 fulfilled scriptures, christians need to stop scapegoating jews, without whom, they would have never had the gospel reach them.
.
every person who is a devil, is a devil because they rejected the Lord, no matter the label, and they come from all "faiths" but themselves have none.....faith that is.
any catholic, jew muslim black white or yellow man is welcome under our roof, there are no special people, all people are whom Christ died for. All people need HIM, desperately.
I am unconvinced that anyone espousing otherwise is born of God, truly I do not see how that is even possible.

if they want to remain fools, then the best advise is to not answer a fool. although I forget that at times, as do we all..
 

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